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vermad
PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 7:53 pm    Post subject: What people say.....

I am posting this message in behalf of Inang Arsenia Dagawin Valdecantos who lives with her daughter in Brossard, Quebec, Canada. A book was given to her as a presnt but she does not have a computer to send her message of thanks. Thanks again to Jun and Luchie Adea who did the mailing for me.

Natanggap ko ang aklat na Paetenians 2004 Memorabilia. Itong sulat kong ito ay bilang pagpapasalamat sa inyong kagandahang loob. Simula ng matanggap ko ay lagi kong binubuklat-buklat at para na din akong nasa ating bayan - Paete, Laguna. Ipinababasa ko din sa aking apo para malaman nila ang kanilang pinanggalingan. Sa totoo lang, maraming bagay ang natutunan ko ngayon.

Nagmamahal, Inang Eniang D. Valdecantos
fredmc
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:38 am    Post subject: Memorabilia nakarating sa Beijing, China

dear amang fred,

natangap na po namin yung MEMORABILLA PAETE book napakaganda po ng nilalaman at talagang purong paetenians.si elmer na raw po ang magpapadala nung mail fee.

kalakip po nito yung picture namin ni elmer, si elmer po ay naka
uniform pa. chef po siya sa landmark hotel beijing.

maraming maraming salamat po

winston hernas
beijing china

To view pictures pls. click below:

http://share.shutterfly.com/ac.....XLlw3cM2VF
g r paelmo
PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:39 am    Post subject: memorabilia excelence

Ako po ay labis na nasiyahan sa memorabilia. Ano man pong mga naging issue ay talaga lamang pong hindi mo makukumbinsi ang lahat. Laging may sasalungat. Basta po kami ni Ina ay labis na kasiyahan ang idinulot sa amin at maraming matututuhan sa pagbabasa ng librong ito sana nga ay may gagawa pa at mangngunang muli. Magkukusa at magtitiyaga na gawin muli ang memorabili 5-10 years from now. Mabuhay po kayo mang Fred Cagayat. God bless and be a blessing to to others, always.
millievaldellonandola
PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:27 pm    Post subject: MARAMING SALAMAT

Nais po namin magpasalamat kay Mr. Fred Cagayat para sa mga magagandang feedback na binigay ninyo sa aming kumpanya, MICA Printing Corporation, para sa printing ng ating Memorabilia 2004. Taos puso po kaming nagpapasalamatt dahil sa ang aming pamilya ay kabilang din sa proyektong ito. Higit sa lahat ay sa appreciation na binigay ninyo sa aming pamilya.

Millie Valdellon - Andola
INA: Rosario Afurong - Valdellon
AMA: Tirso Valdellon (+)

KAPATID:
Gilda Valdellon Reyes
Zosimo "Boy" Valdellon
Tirso "Onyo" Valdellon, Jr.
Roberto Valdellon (+)
Dan Valdellon
Noel Valdellon
Edgar Valdellon
Yolanda Valdellon - Cagayat
fredmc
PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:40 pm    Post subject: Pasasalamat kay Millie Valdellon-Andola at Tin A. Valero

Posted at Greetings' Section: Salamat rin sa'yo Millie at Tin

Ang buong Paete ay dapat magpasalamat sa iyo, at sa iyong anak na si Tin Valero dahil kung hindi sa inyo ay hindi magiging maganda ang ating libro ng Paete Memorabilia 2004.

Mga kababayan, si Millie Valdellon-Andola ang may-ari ng MICA Printing Corp., ang printing press na gumawa ng ating Paete Memorabilia. Malaki ang naitulong nila sa pag-layout, nag-proof read rin, at sadyang pinulido ang yari, pati ang individual book case. Kaya't sa mga papuring natanggap namin (see What our Reader's Say..." )kasama rin ang buong printing staff ng MICA Printing Corp. Ang kanilang pamilya "Afurong-Valdellon" ay nasa page 336 of the Memorabilia.

Kumusta rin kay Edgar, Kang Dido, at kay Uday. Kaklase ko ang tiya mong si Aida Valdellon +(our Valdedictorian) mula elementary hanggang High School.

Maraming salamat!

Fred M. Cagayat
Editor-Paete Memorabilia 2004
emmac
PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:10 pm    Post subject:

Dear Fred,

Just received my copy yesterday afternoon...Thank you!

And thanks to all who, in one way or the other, were involved in the preparation of this memorabillia...it's excellent!

This book brings me back to some moments in my younger life when I was part of the different celebrations being done in Paete...VERY NOSTALGIC.....(s i g h!!!!). Hindi ko mapigilan ang pag buntonghininga.....the only regret I had was.....not being able to give even a small contribution......

CONGRATULATIONS! Job well done!!!

Amy
fredmc
PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 11:25 am    Post subject: Kudos

Fred,

i saw and marvelled at the great work you did on the memorabilia --my sister marie and i, in between cooking and family chats, spent hours over the christmas holidays poring over those pages. amazing how much i didn't know about paete, and this book helped. truly a wonderful reference nurtured with love and passion. you did excellent work -- and all the others who helped put the book together...

yes, i read marie's critique, and i could only agree on the monumental task that you took upon yourself to do (and hey, at such super quality result yet!)...one must truly love paete to be able to do the things you did.

Connie Cagahastian-Triggiano
Teody&Gilda
PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 7:00 pm    Post subject: Marami pong salamat!!

Mang Fred C.(The Man) at Ms. Baby P. (our lovely Pres.),
Marami pong salamat, natanggap na po namin ang napakaganda at nakalilibang na aklat- "Memorabilia 2004".Para po sa amin tunay po itong
nakatutulong sa amin upang muling pag-ugna-ugnayin ang mga pinagmulang angkan, pati na po ang mga ala-ala nang nakaraan maging masaya at malungkot ang dulot.
Marami din pong salamat sa picture- "2004 Homestyle Picnic-S.I.,N.Y."
kahit po maliit nakita namin ang aming mga sarili..he! he!
Again, maraming-maraming salamat po sa inyo at sa lahat nang mga nagbigay nang kani-kanilang natatanging kakayahan para maisakatuparan ang isang magandang hangarin para sa lahat lalo na sa mga taga-Paete.
GOD BLESS US ALL!!!
Teogil86
Emma Carreon
PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:12 pm    Post subject: Memorabilia received

Hi Kang Fred,

I'd just like to inform you that I've received my copy of the book. It arrived last 9 January and I must say that the long wait is really worth it. I feel very priveleged that me and my family have been part of this wonderful project, it's something that we could add to our legacy that could be passed on to future generations. Maraming salamat sa tiyaga, determinasyon at pamumuno mo dahil kundi dahil sa yo, ito ay isang bahagi lang ng pangarap namin na maaaring di matupad. You can rest assured that whatever negative comments were made about it (or will be made, in any case) will fail in comparison to the countless accollades that it has most deservingly received so far! We cannot attend the Summit this year because we're going to the Phil. instead, but I'm sure we'll meet each other in person someday. When we do, please allow me to give you big hugs for a job well done. Thank you sooo much!!

With best regards,

Emma Baet-Carreon
33B Weldene Ave., Glenfield Auckland, New Zealand 0629
vermad
PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:03 pm    Post subject:

Sorry for going off tangent and my sincere apology! I am in this Forum voluntarily and I will happily abide by its rules. I have all my friends here and have no plans to start my own website. Wink It is small stuff and as Marie suggested not worth sweating over. She tickled me though with her perfect Latin quote. I hope nobody will get offended by my indulging in a little pleasure! Wink
Latin & Memorabilia
PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:43 pm    Post subject:

Marie even though we sign on us guest, you especially are not a "guest." You go gal. How do you say that in Tagalog or Latin? I agree with everything that Marie has said.

My interpretation of the threads so far is that is not a show case and is appropriate to the topic. I agree Angel, with what you parsed out of Ver's posting, it "veers " away from the topic Wink but as a whole, is appropriate, considering the diversity we have of the audience.

Let us embrace our differences, and allow for our persons to show. There is a fine line with hubris to humility, and I see no showing off here in the postings. I read a lot of pride in the postings about Paete and the Memorabilia.

I'm pretty sure those interested can understand what is being said here.

No one needs to be intimidated here.

Let's continue to post here & enjoy our Memorabilia book.

Dan Dalan
adedios
PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:09 am    Post subject: Re: Latin

I have made a simple request. The forum as it stands only shows the title of the first topic posted. This particular thread was made 'sticky' with the request made by Fred. The intention is to keep the comments on Paete Memorabilia in one thread and have the thread occupy a position near the top of the forum. Readers then expect that when they open this thread, they will see posts relevant to the Memorabilia.

In another thread not long ago about Ukit-Paete, the moderators of this forum received negative comments regarding their inaction on a post that was claimed to be outside the topic. The format of the forum does not make it easy for the moderators to rearrange the threads.

Seeing the following post (which is clearly off tangent):

vermad wrote:
Renato:

People who claim to have the truth especially in religious matters fascinate and attract my attention. For me, most of their discourses may be classified as QEDs = Quod est demonstrandum or petitio principii or begging the question. They support a dubious statement or claim by another dubious claim or statement.

On judgment day, I have the feeling that God will appear on his judgment seat and say to the atheist, the believer and the fundamentalist: Boys, you've got it all wrong. You believer, you did not have to defend me. I can take care of myself. You fundamentalist, where on earth did you get your ideas about me? You atheist, you did not use the sight I gave you.



I tried to preempt and prevent something similar from happening.

Again, this is but a simple request. And your cooperation and help is appreciated.

Thank you.

-Angel
Marie Pruden
PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:49 am    Post subject:

Simba and Pof (?),

Ouch! Twisted Evil

The few posts in Latin were not originally set out to go off tangent. Ver at first commented that the book's title, "Paete Memorabilia 2004" had one Latin word in it. I suggested that maybe there were two, and offered an explanation.

The rest were minor thread drifts. I quite agree with Renato saying it's almost "un-natural to regiment how people's minds and interest work, especially a truly live and on-line inter-reaching out between people."

While I understand that drifts are a problem in a forum like this, there's got to be a better way to accomodate some exchange of niceties without fear of the police. Maybe Admin could have just moved them to another thread without prior notice, and then post a note that he had done so.

Minor drifts usually dissipate by themselves, especially if posted in Latin. Revera linguam latinam vix cognovi - a little pasiyensya goes a long way.


But this:

Simbakuni wrote:
Better yet, maybe they should keep it to themselves and email each other. Afterall, they are the only ones who understand the exchanges between them anyways.


is so inhospitable. And uncalled for.

What do you do after someone greets another "Kumusta?" Send them off to no-man's land when they start answering with more than the usual, "Fine, thank you?" Notice that a number of those posters are "Guests." Palalayasin mo?

But I'm only a guest myself, so I don't have any say on this. Except, don't sweat the small stuff, especially since Dr. Dan has so neatly tied up all the drifts together and put them back into context.

Merry Christmas. I'm outta here.
Simbakuni
PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:06 pm    Post subject: Re: This thread is about the Memorabilia

admin wrote:
This thread is about the Memorabilia

Fred wrote:

"For those who have received their copies, or have read it from somebody's copies, we would like to know your comments, whether good or bad. We need your feedback. What did you like best in the book? "

Please keep your replies within this subject. Thank you for your cooperation.


Thanks for the reminder Pof.

No offense guys but, I think if people want to showcase their proficiency or knowlege in other languages or dialects, be it Latin, Spanish, German or Ilocano, then yes, they should start a new topic or create their own thread. Better yet, maybe they should keep it to themselves and email each other. Afterall, they are the only ones who understand the exchanges between them anyways.

cheers!
Dan Dalan
PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:00 am    Post subject: Latin

I got the feeling and sense of the old usap and tayangtang as I read, also. As Fred said before Marie, it is good to hear from you. To keep the site ordered, and why it changed, I agree with staying within bounds of the topic.

However, as wordsmiths here post, we all can somehow rhetorically keep it within topic. This is what Memoriabilia stirs in me, the feelings, put into words, such as the roots of our town, via religion, language, Spanish, & Latin.

Renato, you beat me to it, we were all in the same Mass this 3rd Sunday of Advent weren't we. The emphatic imperative verb: gaudeo gaudere gavisus sum, rejoice, as our priests exhalted us with their pink/rose vestments.

The cover of Memorabilia happens to be Simbang Gabi, part of the Advent season, so it again fits. It's for sure, we don't have enough Filipinos here in Fargo, but to at least re-discover, and not forget, our heritage, was one of my comments on Memorabilia, especially for the up and coming younger generations.

It sounds like we have a lot of talent and interests out there on Latin/languages. We can start another thread or forum. Professor Ver? soy estudiante, donde esta, scholasticus, doctoris, cathedrae..

How about starting out with sayings in say Spanish/Tagalog/Latin, or tie in some classic readings, & history lessons.....mas vale pajaro en mano, que cien volando. I would interpret this currently as: these threads of Memorabilia, is valued more that it is in our hands, than one hundred lost birds flying, or lost oppurtunities Smile with all due respect Angel, Rey, Nenett, or Venn; and somehow either fit it to this thread or start a new one. Aprendamos; percipio, percipere, percepi, perceptus

Dan
Marie Pruden
PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:30 am    Post subject: Re: Latin

vermad wrote:
I bet you were looking for the word "Paete" when you bumped into the Letters of Pliny the Younger.


Ver,

Initially, it was Dr. Eugenio Quesada. Surprised If you remember, in his book, "Paete," Quesada researched the etymology of "Paete" on the off-chance that our town could have been named after Paetus, and not after the chisel. Confused

Which make you even more amazed at how meticulous Quesada was at getting things right. And that was eons before Google! Exclamation

Pax et bonum.
lorenzo
PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:01 am    Post subject: only a thesis develops thru straight logical pattern, but.

"..only a thesis does develop through a straight logical pattern; but yes for courtesy, I promise to comply ...."

To the Administrator,
Pardon the incidental going by the byways and highways. I promise to start a new thread if I sense myself forking into an entirely new topic or direction. Nonetheless, realize how Tayangtang and the Old USAP curved through a variety of sub-threads as these swing back and forth the main and sub threads. That is what we call "language or conversational digression". Its almost un-natural to regiment how people's minds and interest work, especially a truly live and on-line inter-reaching out between people. But, yes; I intend to comply with the regimented format.
Renato C Valdellon
admin
PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:27 pm    Post subject: This thread is about the Memorabilia

This thread is about the Memorabilia

Fred wrote:

"For those who have received their copies, or have read it from somebody's copies, we would like to know your comments, whether good or bad. We need your feedback. What did you like best in the book? "

Please keep your replies within this subject. Thank you for your cooperation.
vermad
PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:13 pm    Post subject: Latin

Renato:

I have my theory why Latin is so laconic and succinct. The Romans did not have much writing materials and also they had to etch writings on stone and marble, so they had to be very succinct and had to abbreviate everything to the minimum. The situation then was like the mini-skirt of today: Short enough to be interesting, long enough to cover the subject. Wink

The verb "to be" and other commonly understood and implied words are omitted in Latin like in: Sapientibus pauca. To the wise, few! One might ask: Few what? Few words. The whole dictum might be rendered as follows: To the wise few words are necessary.

I don't know if you were translating my quote. By that I mean: There are as many opinions as there are heads. Our Usap-Paete is a living proof. Thinking people do differ. I have many opinions, a multitude of them. I try to read especially discussion threads. I am just curious to see where people are coming from. Wink

Using a contemporary metaphor, our mind is just like a computer. It can hold only so many gigabytes. Nonetheless, considering the entire field of knowledge, our hard drive really holds very little.

People who claim to have the truth especially in religious matters fascinate and attract my attention. For me, most of their discourses may be classified as QEDs = Quod est demonstrandum or petitio principii or begging the question. They support a dubious statement or claim by another dubious claim or statement.

On judgment day, I have the feeling that God will appear on his judgment seat and say to the atheist, the believer and the fundamentalist: Boys, you've got it all wrong. You believer, you did not have to defend me. I can take care of myself. You fundamentalist, where on earth did you get your ideas about me? You atheist, you did not use the sight I gave you.

Let us continue the discourse. I think I should stop now for the following reason: sapientibus pauca. Give me some more of what you have in your Latin arsenal. Wink
lorenzo
PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:56 pm    Post subject: Abel brighten this Latin corner even more ....

Truer to the Season, “Gaudete” is my preferred salutation to you, Ver.

I am not exactly versed in Aeneid. I just love to recall famous verses here and there. And I like very much Latin’s hiperbaton style where you could place the words anywhere and everywhere and produce the best rhyming of the words. Also with Latin you get to remember meaningful sayings, slogans, and laws with very minimal verbiage.

I like your by-line, “Quot capita, tot sententiae.” Allow me another manner of translation, “Great minds, wise words!”

Again, gaudete, Puer Salvator, natus est!

Renato
PS.
Abel, brighten this Latin corner of Paetenians even more; you're a Master at "it".
vermad
PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:10 am    Post subject: Latin

Salvete Marie and Renato!

I am so delighted to hear from you as I realized in you some love for the Latin language. Marie, I bet you were looking for the word "Paete" when you bumped into the Letters of Pliny the Younger. What a coincidence we had Pliny at school not long ago and we translated that passage where the phrase you quoted was in: Paete, non dolet! Renato, glad to know there is a Aeneid lover in our crowd. Valete! Wink
lorenzo
PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:55 pm    Post subject: another useful re-configuration on Virgil's

Borrowing, changing and using a portion of this Virgil’s verse, the following is a more convenient word change much more applicable to the Paete commendation:
“Taciti, aptent torquent litteras ad classem sociosque” Paetus; ut multitudinis delectent cum laude et verbo, tamquam adpropinquaret veritate.
A modest people, placing at a pedestal them their elite members and people at large and heaping them words of tribute; that it pleases the great many their word and praise even as they attempt doing so in all truthfulness.
Renato C Valdellon
lorenzo
PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 1:53 pm    Post subject: Tony,.... from Raul Roque's book, Altar Boys' Mass Prayers

Hello Antonio,
Heto yung major parts ng Ad Deum at Confiteor na mini-memorize natin noon.

“In nomine Patris, et Filii et Spiritus Sancti. Amen.
Introibo ad Altare Dei.”
The Knights and the Royal Masters used to answer:
“Ad Deum qui laetificat juventutem meam.”
In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.
I will go up to the altar of God.
To God, who gives joy to my youth.
Sa ngalan ng Ama at ng Anak at ng Espiritu Santo. Amen.
Ako ay aakyat sa dambana ng Diyos.
Sa Diyos na nagbibigay ng kagiliwan sa aking kabataan.

Confiteor Deo Omnipotenti, ............et tibi, Pater, quia peccavi nimis, cogitatione, verbo et opere: mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa........
I confess to Almighty God to .........and to you, Father, that I have sinned exceedingly in thought, word and deed: through my fault, through my fault through my most grievous fault.

Tinanggal ko na yung iba pang parte.

Kumusta, Antonio? Nagkaka-kontakan baga kayo ni Arthur? I am sure he would be excited to see you. Pag-uwi mo, how about dumalaw ka sa kanila? Madali lamang alamin ang bahay niya sa Marikina. And he will gladly pick you up. And I hope someday magkaka-meet tayo dito sa Paetenians.
Bro. Renato
Flora N. Filoteo
PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:08 am    Post subject: My comments on the Memorabilia - Flora N. Filoteo

Dear Fred and Cora,

The Paete Memorabilia arrived today. It's indeed a treasure! Everyone should be very proud to possess it. I admired it immensely. My, what labor of love can create! Saludo ako, dalawang kamay.

I have gone from cover to cover, I'm thankful for the little contributions I was able to make. Salamat at ginawa mong marapat yong mga articles sa MQN. I am so happy to see "Epic of Matanglawin. " And our family pictures! Thank you very much.

...Everything in the Memorabilia is excellent: Content, organization, art work and make-up.Excellent! Excellent! Saludo!

Flora N.Filoteo -
Pres. Matanglawin Club and Editor-Matanglawin Quarterly Newsette
tritons
PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 6:49 am    Post subject: Latin at Misa Cantada



Hello Brod Renato,

Speaking of reminiscing..... Smile I still remember deep in
my memories those opening latin words during our days of Knights
of the Altar.... Very Happy
Addeum quei letificat uventutem meam, quia tu is Deus

fortitudu mia.....where I remember in translation as " I confess to

Almighty God and to you my brothers and sisters that I have sinned

thru my own fault in my words...etc."

Paki-correct na lang yun latin words..LOL! Laughing

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all!

tony dalagan

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