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MARIANO BALDEMOR MADRIÑAN (1858-1939) - Pambayang Bayani
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:31 pm    Post subject: MARIANO BALDEMOR MADRIÑAN (1858-1939) - Pambayang Bayani Reply with quote





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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:24 pm    Post subject: Rebulto ni Tandang Mariano Madrinan Reply with quote

Hindi po ba may panukala na noong araw na igagawa ng rebulto ni G. Fred Baldemor ng rebulto si Tandang Mariano Madrinan?
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MARIANO BALDEMOR MADRIÑAN
Born: September 25, 1858
Died: January 7, 1939
Father: Luciano Madriñan
Mother: Tomasima Baldemor





MARIANO MADRIÑAN
First Internationally Known Filipino Sculptor

As written by Gregorio F. Zaide
Pagsanjan, May 18, 1980
Historian


The picturesque mini-town of Paete by the shore of Laguna de Bay is famous for two things - its inimitable sweet lanzones and its exquisite wood carvings. It is with justifiable pride that the Paeteños are celebrating the 4th Centennial of the founding of their town which, according to historical records, was founded by two famous Fransiscan missionaries, Fray Juan de Plasencia and Diego de Oropesa.

On the occasion of this happy festival, the people of Paete should be enlightened of the litle-known fact that there was a great man, their own town-mate, one until now is "unhonored, unsung, and unwept" in their town. He was Mariano Madriñan, a woodcarver poor in material possessions, but iniquely rich in God-given artistic talent. Historywise he was the greatest man ever produced by Paete because he was the first and only Filipino to win the first prize (gold medal) at the Amsterdam Exposition of 1883. One of the features of the International Exposition was the art competition (paint and sculpture) to which many countries of the world sent their entries. The sculptural works, one of which was the image of Mater Dolorosa (Sorrowing Mother) which Mariano Madriñan carved exquisitely from native wood. Only this sculptural masterpiece of Madriñan, out of all Philippines entries, won a prize - gold medal at that. Evidently, the board of judges in the international art competition was enchanted by the beauty and artistry of Madriñan's sculpted opus.

This was an amazing and unprecedented honor to Madriñan, for he bested the sculptors from Spain, France, Mexico and other foreign countries, who were trained in the prestigious art schools of the world. By winning first prize in Amsterdam Exposition (art competition), he gained international recognition as an sculptor for himself and reflected glory to the Philippines (his native country) and to Paete (his natal town).

When King Alfonso XII (1875-1885) learned from his advisers that an indio from the Philippines romped away with the first prize in the international art competition at the Amsterdam Exposition of 1883, he was delighted and immediately ordered the preparation of a diploma of honor inscribed in gold letterings, including Madriñan's name. He sent it to the Spanish Governor-General for transmittal to Mariano Madriñan in Paete.

Strangely, this great Filipino sculptor has been forgotten and unhonored in the Philippines and also in his town. Present-day town folks in Paete nay dimly remember his name, but the vast majority of them do not know that once upon a time Mariano Madriñan, whom they may remember as Tandang Ano, brought glory to the Philippines and to Paete, in particular. No monument has been erected so far in his honor, and until today no street in his native town has been named after him - and yet there are streets in his own town which may have been named after persons of dubious distinction, persons undeserving of even a whispering footnote in history books.

For so many, many years, Madriñan who has long gone to the other world, remains a forgotten hero of his town, a victim of man's ingratitude. It is high time, especially now when his town-mates are celebrating the 4th Centennial Anniversary ot the town, to accord him due reward and recognition which he fully deserves.

If the people of the neighboring town of Pakil have in recent years erected a life-size monument to their great town-mate, Marcelo Adonay, famous Filipino organist and music composer, as an expression of their gratitude, why cannot the people of Paete do the same thing with regards to their greatest kababayan, Mariano Madriñan, the first internationally known Filipino sculptor and the only Paeteño, for whom history's bell rings a lasting salute.

History-wise, it may be said that Paete is famous for three things --- its inimitable sweet lanzones, its exquisite woodcarvings, and its Mariano Madriñan.

Hark to what the eminent Argentine historian. Dr. Enrique de Gandia, says: "El pueblo que no honra sus grandes hombres nunca sera grande."


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Juan Luna won a gold medal for his SPOLARIUM at the Exposición Nacional de Bellas Artes in Madrid in 1884, a year after Mariano Madriñan won in 1883.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:58 am    Post subject: very commendable, Vice Mutuk! maraming salamat... Reply with quote

totoally enjoyed this post!
thank you, Vice Mayor.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yehey, finally the long-overdue recognition of our foremost local hero was done. I concur with the idea that we should have a street named after him as well as a bust built in recognition of his accomplishment of putting Paete in the world map. Thanks to the effort by our town council. By the way, whatever happen to his masterpiece? Where is it now?

I hope and I am very optimistic that more Paetenians will be bringing forth glory to our town in the years ahead.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


Heto po yung replica ng Mater Dolorosa na inukit ni Mariano Baldemor Madriñan na nagkamit ng unang gantimpala noon sa Amsterdam International Colonial Exposition of 1883.


Ito po ay nasa pag iingat at nakalagak sa matandang bahay ng mga Quesada.


Kasalukuyan na pong inaayos ang lugar kung saan pansamatalang ilalagay ang Bustos ng Mariano B. Madriñan.




Sa darating pong Sept. 25, 2008 araw ng Huwebes ika-8 ng umaga ay magkakaroon po ng Misa Selebrasyon sa Simbahang Katoliko para sa pagdiriwang ng ika- 150 taong kaarawan ng pagkakasilang ng Pambayang Bayani MARIANO B. MADRIÑAN at pagkatapos po ng misa ay mayroon ding isasagawang programa sa Liwasang Mariano B. Madriñan (Liwasang Bayan) para sa pasinaya ng kanyang Bustos.

Ang lahat po, partikular ang mga kaanak ni Tandang Ano ay malugod na iniimbitahan para sa nasabing okasyon.

MARAMING SALAMAT PO!!!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:35 am    Post subject: This is tlee, sorry i forgot to log in...TY, All! Reply with quote

dear Vice,
i have forwarded your message to the Quesada List and to the following:
1. Chita Q. Cadayona-Serrano (via her daughter Dingie)
2. Emil and Leo Q.C. in Paranaque
3. Jean Q. Fadul-Arce (Odon & Amalia's daughter in Quezon City)
4.Sonia Q. Calaranan in Pasig City
5.Nestor Quesada (via his son Eggay Quesada in Manila)
6.Arnie & Loyd Quesada who are vacationing there at the moment for 3 weeks, they left last week (via Dante Q. & Nita Pantaleon of Alabang)

i hope some if not all of them can attend the Mass on September 25 in Paete.

Vice Mutuk, you have been such a great facilitator and 'rejuvinator' (i hope you like this word, you know what i mean) of the archives of Paete history and most masipag na moderator of the Paete's Family Tree forum which are all important legacies to all Paetenians, young, old and those still to come! May you be endlessly inspired by your work for our beloved town.
Mabuhay and more power to you and your group!
tlee Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:55 am    Post subject: Tarpaulin Reply with quote

Eto po ang tarpaulin na gagamitin sa September 25, 2008 sa pagdiriwang ng ika-150 kaarawan ni Pambayang Bayani Mariano Baldemor Madrinan. Ito po ay may sukat na 4 ft. ang lapad at 10 ft. ang haba.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Such a great news for the people of Paete and the skeptics around our town!

Any details to what happened to the original head?
If this Dolorosa is the "replica" of the prize-winning entry, when was this made?

Thanks very much!


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Father Eugene A. Fadul
Bishop Personal Secretary
Maraming Salamat po kay Fr. Eugene, ang kanyang pagiging taga Paete ay nagbigay ng ibayong sigla sa misa. Hindi po mapapasubalian na binigyan niya ng mahalagang oras at importansya ang Misa Selebrasyon ito para sa ating Pambayang Bayani.

















Kon. Emer B. Gajitos


Kon. Ronald B. Cosico


Mayor Emmanuel B. Cadayona




Hon. Neil Andrew Nocon
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Laguna Provincial Board Member





Mayor Noel, Bokal Neil Nocon and Gina Austria, the Prov'l. Tourism Officer.
















Lutong Paete - Biringhi at Lumpiang Ubod.



Tandang Ano
Mariano Baldemor Madriñan


"Ang mamatay sa bayan kong sinilangan, ang mahimlay sa walang hanggang katahimikan sa simbahan na tahanan ng aking mga dinadakilang banal - ito ang pinakamahalaga kong nasa sa buhay. Nababatid ko sa kaibuturan ng aking puso na hindi ako pababayaan ng aking mga anak, mga apo at ng mga taong may mabuting kalooban na naturuan ko, ng mga banal na kapanalig ko sa pagdarasal sa simbahan, at ng Poong Maykapal na lubos ang awa sa lahat ng kanyang nilalang".


-Huling pahayag ni Tandang Ano sa kanyang apo na si Eliseo Madriñan Quesada bago siya (Tandang Ano) pumanaw-
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice.

But in my humble opinion, I think the title "Pambayang Iskultor" or "Pambayang Artist" or something to that effect would have been more appropriate. Just a thought.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 10:04 am    Post subject: Homily Reply with quote

HOMILY
25 September 2008

Magandang umaga po!

“A person is a hero, if he’s a H.E.R.O.”

Ito po ay acronym ng mga katangian ng tunay na bayani:
H-onor (karangalan). Ang isang bayani ay nagbibigay ng karangalan sa kanyang bayan at bansa.
E-ndurance (katatagan). Ang isang bayani ay matatag sa harap ng pagsubok at dusa.
R-ealism (naka-ugat sa reyalidad ng buhay). Ang isang bayani ay naka-ugat sa katotohanan. Hindi siya nabubuhay sa isang dreamland kundi batid ang kalagayan ng buhay kung kaya’t siya ay kumikilos.
O-blation (alay). Ang bawat bayani ay kinikilala sa pag-aalay na kanyang ginawa para sa bayan.

Sa araw na ito ay ating pinararangalan at kinikilala si Mariano Baldemor Madriñan bilang “Pambayang Bayani.” Sa aking paghahanda para sa Misang ito, nagbasa ako ng napakaraming tala ukol kay Tandang Ano. Sa aking pagsasaliksik, nabatid ko na ang mga katangiang binanggit ko kanina ay nasalamin sa buhay ni Tandang Ano.

Si Mariano Madriñan ay nagbigay ng karangalan sa ating bayan sa pamamagitan ng kanyang obra maestra na kinilala sa ibang bansa. Ang award na kanyang tinanggap ay katulad din ng parangal na tinanggap ni Juan Luna sa kanyang “Spolarium.” Nauna pa nga siya ng isang taon.

Si Mariano Madriñan ay nagpakita ng katatagan sapagkat dumanas siya ng pagsubok. Hindi niya natanggap ang medalyang ginto na iginawad ng Hari ng Espanya sapagkat ito ay hinarang ng Cabeza de Baranggay. Hindi daw siya karapat-dapat dahil isa siyang Indio. He experienced descrimination. At ayon kay Brenda Fajardo, nakaranas din si Tandang Ano ng pangkukutya sa ating mga kababayan. Noong matanda na siya ay nabangga siya ng isang auto na siyang naging sanhi ng kanyang pagiging ulianin. Kinutya siya at pinagtawanan ng mga bata at ilan nating kababayan. Ngunit, nakita pa rin sa kanya ang katatagan.

Si Mariano Madriñan ay naka-ugat sa reyalidad ng buhay. Ang ating bayan ay kilala sa pag-uukit kaya ginawa niya ito hindi lang para sa ikabubuhay niya ngunit para matanghal ang ating bayan ng Paete.

Ang mga sikat na bayani ay kinikilala sa mga pag-aalay na kanilang ginawa. Si Jose Rizal ay nag-alay ng kanyang talino at buhay para sa bayan. Si Andres Bonifacio ay nag-alay ng dugo para sa paglaya ng bayan. Si Mariano Madriñan ay bayani sapagkat inialay niya ang kanyang talino para sa karangalan ng ating munting bayan.

Ang mga katangiang ito na ipinakita ni Mariano Madriñan ay isang hamon para sa ating lahat. Hindi tayo nagtitipon dito para lang parangalan si Tandang Ano. Tayo ay tinatawagan na tularan ang mga katangiang ito. Tayong lahat ay tinatawagang maging mga bayani. Mawawalang kabuluhan ang pagdiriwang na ito kung tayo ay walang gagawin para sa bayan.

Napakaganda po ng mga pagbasa natin sa araw na ito. Binibigyan tayo ng mga pagbasa sa araw na ito ng mga halimbawa kung hindi natin susundan ang yapak ni Mariano Madriñan. Sabi sa ating unang pagbasa: “walang kabuluhan, walang halaga ang lahat ng bagay” (Qoheleth 1,2). Walang kabuluhan ito kapag hindi tayo magpapakabayani. Sa ating ebanghelyo, sinabi sa atin ang istorya ni Herodes (Lukas 9,7-9). Sa pag-aaral ng Bibliya, ang literal na kahulugan ng pangalan ni Herodes ay “song of a hero”—awit ng bayani—heros (bayani) at oidos (awit). Si Herodes ay mula sa pamilya ng mga bayani. Ngunit dahil hindi niya pinangatawanan ang pagiging bayani, Herod is a deteriorated hero. Kapag hindi natin sinundan ang yapak ni Mariano Madriñan, ang bawat isa sa atin ay magiging mga “herodes.”

Sa pagpapatuloy ng pagdiriwang na ito, hilingin natin sa Diyos na pagkalooban niya tayo ng biyaya na maging mga bayani. At sa ating pagpapakabayani, hindi lang sana natin mabigyan ng parangal ang bayan natin kundi mapapurihan din natin ang Diyos na siyang pinagmumulan ng lahat ng ating pagsusumikap. Lumapit tayo kay Hesukristo—ang tunay nating H.E.R.O. Amen.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 10:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Difference between First Prize and Gold Medal Reply with quote

sorry, I didn't get to see this thread on time. Just a clarification here...

Mariano Madrinan did get a gold medal in 1883, but it doesn't necessarily mean he got the first prize. The exposition was not like the Olympics where only one gold is awarded per sport. There were a few others who also won gold medals

this is similar to Juan Luna's Spoliarium (not Spolarium, currently on display at the National Art Gallery, National Museum Complex in Manila) in the Paris Exposition of 1884. He won a gold medal but there were also others who got the same medal.

Felix Resureccion Hidalgo, from whom the photographer's haven in Quiapo was named, got a silver medal for his painting as well as 14 others also in 1884 in Paris, when the Eiffel tower was unveiled.

In fact, the coveted "medal of honor," the highest award during that time (not the gold medal), was not awarded in 1884

Mariano Madrinan deserves the honor alright, but please make the clarification on the "first prize" award.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Difference between First Prize and Gold Medal Reply with quote

paetechie wrote:
sorry, I didn't get to see this thread on time. Just a clarification here...

Mariano Madrinan did get a gold medal in 1883, but it doesn't necessarily mean he got the first prize. The exposition was not like the Olympics where only one gold is awarded per sport. There were a few others who also won gold medals

this is similar to Juan Luna's Spoliarium (not Spolarium, currently on display at the National Art Gallery, National Museum Complex in Manila) in the Paris Exposition of 1884. He won a gold medal but there were also others who got the same medal.


I stand corrected on the Spolarium spelling. I made an error using as my reference the wrong spelling which still appear under the photo of the winning painting of Juan Luna. Here is the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Luna

Paumanhin po!

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paetechie wrote:
Felix Resureccion Hidalgo, from whom the photographer's haven in Quiapo was named, got a silver medal for his painting as well as 14 others also in 1884 in Paris, when the Eiffel tower was unveiled.


Pls. open this link http://www.kulay-diwa.com/felix_hidalgo

This is the important part

"In 1879, he (Felix R. Hidalgo) went to Rome, still as a pensionado, where he finished a portrait, Senador Romano (Roman Senator), and others. In 1883, he toured Spain rejoining his patron and close friend, Francisco de Yriarte in Galicia. There, he pitched a tent to study nature more closely. He then moved to Paris for further studies with the partial support of de Yriarte"

Pls. take note that as per records Francisco de Yriarte was the one who brought the Mater Dolorosa for the Amsterdam Exposition of 1883.


paetechie wrote:
In fact, the coveted "medal of honor," the highest award during that time (not the gold medal), was not awarded in 1884

Mariano Madrinan deserves the honor alright, but please make the clarification on the "first prize" award.


According to the late Gregorio F. Zaide, a known Philippine Historian:

Historywise he (Mariano Madriñan) was the greatest man ever produced by Paete because he was the first and only Filipino to win the first prize (gold medal) at the Amsterdam Exposition of 1883.


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PAETE
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Di naglaon nakilala si Mariano bilang isa sa mga pangunahing mag-uukit sa Paete. Hindi mabilang ang mga obrang kanyang ginawa para sa mga simbahan ng karatig bayan at lalawigan pati na nang para sa magagarang tahanan ng mga mayayaman. Kabilang sa kanyang tanging parokyano ay ang mga kagalang-galang na opisyal ng pamahalaan tulad nina Higino Benitez ng Edukasyon, Hukom Cayetano Arellano, Pedro Paterno na Kalihim Pangloob, Bonifacio Arevalo, kilalang patron ng sining sa Maynila at ni Don Francisco de Yriarte, Alkalde Mayor ng Laguna noong 1875-78.

Sa panahon ng kanyang panunungkulan, tinipon ni Don Francisco de Yriarte sa bayan ng Sta. Cruz ang lahat ng pinakamahusay na mag uukit sa Paete. Pinagawa niya sila ng mga kagamitan ng pamahalaan sa mabuting pagpapasahod. Pinasali din sila sa isang paligsahan sa paggawa ng kanilang obra maestra. Dito unang nagwagi ang obra maestrang MATER DOLOROSA ni Mariano. Dagling dinala ito ni Yriarte sa Europe at isinali sa Exposition International sa Amsterdam, Holland noong 1882. Nanalo ito ng unang gantimpalaan medalyong ginto sa eskultura sa kalupunan ng mga obra ng mga kanilang eskultor ng España, Francia, Mexico at ibang mga bansa.

Dahil sa kagalakan ng hari ng España sa pagkapanalo ng isang indio sa Pilipinas na sakop ng kanyang kaharian, nagpagawa ang Haring Alfonso XII para kay Mariano ng isang diploma na may titik na *ganito ang pangalan bilang pagkilala at pagpapatunay sa kanyang pagkapanalo. Ipinadala ito ng hari sa Gobernador General ng Pilipinas upang maibigay kay Mariano sa Paete. Ngunit nang ito ay makarating ng bayan, minarapat ng Kapitan na angkinin ang medalyon sa paniniwala na si Mariano ay di karapat-dapat na magsuot nito pagkat siya ay isang pangkaraniwang mamamayan lamang at ni hindi naging Cabeza. Minarapat naman ni Mariano na ilagay ang kanyang diploma sa isang magarang kuwadro na sadya niyang ginawa upang bigyang halaga ang kanyang karangalan. Ngunit pagkaraan ng ilang panahon kanya itong sinunog upang wala nang magpaala-ala ng ginawang paghamak sa kanya na hindi niya maituwid dahil sa kanyang kahirapan.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:21 am    Post subject: Re: Difference between First Prize and Gold Medal Reply with quote

paetechie wrote:

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

In fact, the coveted "medal of honor," the highest award during that time (not the gold medal), was not awarded in 1884

Mariano Madrinan deserves the honor alright, but please make the clarification on the "first prize" award.


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1956
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“During the Spanish regime. It there was any public official whose life and career was a full time dedication to art in Laguna, the signal honor should belong to Don Francisco de Yriarte, provincial alcalde of that province from 1876 to 1878. As Laguna’s executive, he gave the Paete sculptors a new deal. In Sta. Cruz, he gathered a number of these wood-carvers to work for the government at wages they could dictate. Exquisitely embellished chairs and other furniture for the royal family in Spain, life-size images for Castillan churches, busts and bas-reliefs of the royal household and their friends were among the many and delicate works of art that they produced. The Mother Country was not very slow in acknowledging their genius.

“Among these sculptors of the late seventies was a modest and pious middle-aged man named Mariano Madriñan. In the year 1882, he received a diploma of award and a medal of honor from King Alfonso XII of Spain for his MATER DOLOROSA, a magnificent work of art which was exhibited at the International Exposition held in Amsterdam, Holland, that year. An exact replica of this religious art may be seen at the Paete parish church during the Holy Week celebration when the church becomes a veritable gallery of Lentine art.

“Madriñan was a master in the interpretation of the VIRGIN MARY and of THE CRUCIFIXON. Like Murillo, the great Spanish painter, when inspired his eyes welled up in tears as he recalled how much our Lord suffered. Now an octogerian, he is too old to recognize his own works even at close range. But his beautiful works of art, hundreds of them adorning many church in the Islands and possibly in Spain, are a silent testimony to the glory of this man and the grandeur of his calling.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:24 am    Post subject: Re: Difference between First Prize and Gold Medal Reply with quote

mutuk wrote:

According to the late Gregorio F. Zaide, a known Philippine Historian:
Historywise he (Mariano Madriñan) was the greatest man ever produced by Paete because he was the first and only Filipino to win the first prize (gold medal) at the Amsterdam Exposition of 1883.
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Vice, you may be referring to a website with outdated information by the late Mr. Zaide. Some of his writings are now considered obsolete e.g. in a book i used to read, he wrote extensively about Code of Kalantiaw, once the pride of Batan, Aklan, now considered by modern historians as a hoax concocted by Jose Marco in the early 1900s. (and people of Batan just can't accept it that they're deifying a mythological hero while the Philippine government used to award Order of Kalantiaw to retiring judges). I don't know if Zaide's books are still updated by his daughter though.

You can't fault Zaide, he may not have gotten hold of the latest original sources historians of today have access to. There might also come a time when a historian in the future will also refute the works of their predecessors, the historians of today, when new evidence comes to light.

Sorry but I forgot to name my source on this matter on my first post, the noted scholar and historian Ambeth Ocampo, an expert on Rizal and Spanish times. If you want, you can contact him directly through his column "Looking Back" in the Inquirer (email address: aocampo at ateneo dot edu). As a scholar, he consults original sources (not hearsay evidence), mostly in Spanish and visits the actual places where historical events took place (he frequently visits europe to check museums and archives including extant records of the exposition). He currently chairs the National Historical Institute, the authority on matters like this. A formal request can be sent to the NHI for the official and updated information on this subject to put this matter to rest. One of the things he proved by using original sources in Europe was that San Sebastian Church and the Eiffel Tower in Paris share the same designer: Gustave Eiffel.

the link you provided just proved my point with the information that Hidalgo "was awarded the ninth silver medal at the 1884 Exposicion General de Bells Artes in Madrid" meaning he got a silver but doesn't necessarily mean he placed second to Juan Luna. It also says there he got the 9th medal, but we don't know the particular order they were awarded for records show there were 15 silver medals handed out.

The same situation the year before in Amsterdam, a gold medal doesn't mean a first place finish, many others also got a gold medal; and how about recipients of the medal of honor, more coveted than the gold?

think of it another way, people often insist that Jose Rizal graduated at the top of his class at the Ateneo with grades of "sobresaliente" [excellent] but official records, still extant at the Ateneo, show there were 12 of them in his class, with 8 others besides him with "sobresaliente" grades.

Rizal got excellent grades alright but didn't place first at the Ateneo; Mariano Madrinan got a gold but did not necessarily place first either in Amsterdam 1883. Same situation for Juan Luna in Paris 1884.

This is not to disparage them or undervalue their contribution, something just needs to be clarified.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:39 am    Post subject: Re: Difference between First Prize and Gold Medal Reply with quote

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In fact, the coveted "medal of honor," the highest award during that time (not the gold medal), was not awarded in 1884


“Among these sculptors of the late seventies was a modest and pious middle-aged man named Mariano Madriñan. In the year 1882, he received a diploma of award and a medal of honor from King Alfonso XII of Spain for his MATER DOLOROSA, a magnificent work of art which was exhibited at the International Exposition held in Amsterdam, Holland,


Vice, ako uli Razz

there's an error here. the exposition in Amsterdam was in 1883, not 1882.

Madrinan was awarded the gold medal, that is the undeniable truth; but not the medal of honor, it's different and more coveted than the gold medal.

what i mentioned was that the "medal of honor" was not awarded in 1884, the time Juan Luna won a gold medal.

I can only show you email correspondence with Mr. Ambeth Ocampo of the National Historical Institute. but he always reply to my inquiries and comments to his columns, the latest of which is about Hidalgo.

I really recomment we refer this to the NHI for the official story where everything is based on solid evidence and everything is subjected to scrutiny and peer review. At the NHI, they won't say according to Zaide nor Ocampo nor by any historian, rather according to the records of the expositions...the NHI, I'm sure, has certified true copies of the records as first-hand evidence.

some other questions in my mind:

on the location of the original mater dolorosa? no definite location is available unlike the original of the Spoliarium now at the National Art Gallery (do take time to see it, it's prominently displayed there).

on the monument of Rizal, Mabini and Bonifacio at the town plaza, it was said to be done by Jose Caancan (who sought out Rizal in exile in Dapitan) and Mariano Madrinan. Where can we find the "receipt" of the claim? Did you know that it's one of the first monuments of Rizal, predated by the one in Daet, Camarines Norte (that I was able to visit twice) by five years? [I don't see this fact promoted by our local tourism officials, what gives?]

Another important question that remain unanswered is this: where is the gold medal? Is it really true that Spanish authorities that time didn't hand it to Mariano Madrinan?

These things needs more research, and for it to be scholarly, referred to original sources, some of them kept at the National Archives in Manila, and not from sources on the Internet, in order to avoid second hand information.

punta tayo sa europe para makita natin yung original na "resibo" Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Botits,

Bago tayo pumalaot, mayroon lang akong nais linawin.

Ang iyo bagang nililinaw ay yuong pagkapanalo ng unang gantimpala (first prize) o yung bilang pagkakahirang kay Tandang Ano bilang Pambayang Bayani ng Paete?

Bagamat parang kahirap isipin na kayang imbentuhin lang ng pamilya Madriñan ang ganitong mga kwento at mapapatunayan naman na mayroon ngang naganap na ganitong pandaigdigang paligsahan. Kung sa kabila ng aking paglalahad ng mga ginamit na basehan sa kanyang pagkapanalo sa unang gantimpala (first prize) ay hindi katangap tangap sa iyo ay okey lang sa akin kung makapagbibigay ka ng patunay na talagang mali sila. Ang mahalaga sa akin ay tanggap mo na he (Mariano B. Madriñan) deserves the honor. Alright!

Kung kaduda duda sa iyo ang mga pagkatao ng aking mga ginamit at gagamitin pang basehan ay wala akong magagawa. Hanggat walang matibay na basehan na magpapatunay na sila ay nagkamali ay patuloy akong maniniwala sa aking napag alaman na sa bayan ng mga maglililok ay mayroong isang pangkaraniwang mamamayan noon panahong ang Pilipinas ay sakop pa ng Kastila ang kinilala ng isang Hari, si Haring Alfonso XII ng Espanya sa pamamagitan ng pagbibigay ng isang diploma of award na nakarating kay Tandang Ano subalit ang "Medal of Honor" ay sadyang hinarang at hindi ibigay sa kanya dahil sa kanyang mababang katatayuan noon sa buhay.

Ako'y naniniwala na ang karangalang ito at ang nagyaring paghamak kay Tandang Ano ay magiging positibong aral at inspirasyon sa ating mga kababayan na ang kanilang kahirapan sa buhay ay hindi dapat maging balakid upang mas lalo nilang pag ibayuhin ang sigasig na itaas ang antas ng kanilang angking talento sa larangan ng pag uukit alang alang hindi lamang para sa kani kanilang mga sarili bagkus ay para sa ating bayan.

Siguro naman ay hindi mo ipagkakait na si Tandang Ano, isang Paeteño, ang pinakaunang Pinoy na eskultor na kinilala sa isang pandaigdigan na paligsahan.
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Such a great news for the people of Paete and the skeptics around our town!

Any details to what happened to the original head?
If this Dolorosa is the "replica" of the prize-winning entry, when was this "replica" made?

Thanks very much!

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Anyhow, I guess it's about time to form a Committee of some sort about all these accounts and claims once and for all, (like a Fact-Finding Cmte maybe). It's not too late.


Maraming salamat sa mga kababayang handang magbigay ng oras at halaga sa usaping ito para sa kaalaman ng nakararami. Mabuhay po kayo!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Botits,

Sorry! Hindi pala ako nakapag log in dun sa huli kong posting na darkred ang letra.

Yamak,

Sorry din! Wala pa akong makuhang info. Hindi ko pa matiyempuhan yung nakakaalam nito. Hamo at i-post ko pag may nakuha na ako. Mahirap kasing mag post ng wala man lang basehan na panghahawakan.

Palagay ko naman ang nililinaw lang ni Tito ay yung sa pagiging first prize winner nung obra ni Tandang Ano. Hamo at ihahanap natin ito ng kasagutan o kaliwanagan sa mga kinauukulan.

Dahil dito parang gusto ko ngang pumunta sa Europe Very Happy Laughing
Kailan kaya ang summit dun? Very Happy Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bago tayo pumalaot, mayroon lang akong nais linawin.

Ang iyo bagang nililinaw ay yuong pagkapanalo ng unang gantimpala (first prize) o yung bilang pagkakahirang kay Tandang Ano bilang Pambayang Bayani ng Paete?


anonymous,

malinaw ko naman po sinasabi ngayon sa wikang tagalog na hindi ako tutol sa gawad na yan. Ni hindi ko rin tinatangging nagkamit ng gintong medalya. Sinabi ko rin po na dapat naman syang bigyan ng karangalan ng ating bayan

ang punto ko lang talaga, nanalo sya ng gintong medalya pero hindi ibig sabihin nanalo sya ng unang karangalan

ang Exposition ng 1883 ay hindi po katulad ng Olympics na pag meron kang gintong medalya, ay ikaw na rin ang "first prize." Hindi po ganyan ang pangyayari-- marami po silang nanalo ng gintong medalya.

sa parehong pangyayari, si Juan Luna ay nanalo ng gintong medalya at si Felix Hldalgo ng medalyang pilak ng Exposition ng 1884, sumunod na taon ng pagkapanalo ng ating kababayan, pero hindi po ibig sabihin First Prize si Luna at Second place si Hidalgo. Hindi po ganun ang takbo ng Exposition noong araw.

wala po akong sinabing inimbento ng pamilya Madrinan ang pagkapanalo ng ginto, alam na po ng lahat na yan ay totoo pero ang medalya, kung atin pong makikita, ay maidadagdag sa yamang pang-kultura ng Paete, nararapat ipagmalaki buong mundo.

ang aking suhestyon nga kay Vice Mutuk ay dapat ikonsulta ang bagay na ito sa National Historical Institute for the "official version," may resibo po lahat ang kanilang version at hindi hango lang sa kung saan-saan, dapat po lahat ng ating ituturo sa ibang tao, sa inyong mga anak (ako po ay wala pang anak) ay pawang suportado ng "resibo." Kung meron nga pong taga-Paete na nasa Amsterdam at Madrid ngayon ay maaring ma-silip ang orihinal na dokumento ng naturang pangyayari (na ginagawa po talaga ng mga tunay na iskolar)

anong malay po natin, sa ating mala-iskolar na pananaliksik ay malaman din natin kung nasaan ang orihinal na imahen at ang nawawalang medalya ay maiuwi sa Paete.

lahat po tayo'y mas magiging masaya!
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Botits,

Sorry! Hindi pala ako nakapag log in dun sa huli kong posting na darkred ang letra.


di ko rin napansin, I addressed you as Anonymous Razz

mutuk wrote:

Palagay ko naman ang nililinaw lang ni Tito ay yung sa pagiging first prize winner nung obra ni Tandang Ano. Hamo at ihahanap natin ito ng kasagutan o kaliwanagan sa mga kinauukulan.



Vice,

nilinaw ko na yan sa taas

the National Historical Institute's office is on T.M. Kalaw St in Manila, same building as the National Library.

official website: http://www.nhi.gov.ph

dyan may resibo saka baka nga ma-trace natin yung orihinal na imahen at yung medalya

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Dahil dito parang gusto ko ngang pumunta sa Europe Very Happy Laughing
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sama ako, gusto ko rin yan Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:04 am    Post subject: ambeth ocampo article Reply with quote

here's a timely article from Ambeth Ocampo, published just yesterday in the Philippine Daily Inquirer, regarding how we should interpret the Gold and Silver medals of international expositions:

"Like Luna, who left Madrid for Rome to work with his teacher Alejo Vera, Hidalgo joined the company of Spanish painters in the Eternal City. It was in Rome that he was immersed in the history and stories of ancient Rome, thus producing “Virgenes Cristianas Expuestas al Populacho” [“Christian Virgins Exposed to the Mob”], which won a silver medal in the 1884 Madrid Exposition of Fine Arts. In the same Exposition, Luna was awarded the gold medal for “Spoliarium.” From then on Hidalgo would always be a quiet shadow to Luna.

From then on, according to our textbooks, Luna and Hidalgo became the first international Filipino painters. Then, as now, they made us feel good as a people, like Manny Pacquiao winning in the boxing ring.

However, we have to rein in our enthusiasm and remember that these gold and silver medals should not be seen as Olympic gold, silver and bronze medals. Luna did not win “first place” and Hidalgo, “second place.” Luna garnered one gold medal out of the three that were given out that year. He was not awarded the much-coveted Medal of Honor, which was withheld in 1884. Hidalgo won one silver medal out of at least 15 given out that year."

now I have a direct quote from a noted scholar who actually went to Europe to locate and consult original sources and records. Prof. Ocampo also disclosed there were 3 gold medals that year awarded in 1884, including Luna's, but Juan Luna did not win first prize because there really is no such thing as first prize in expositions.

the same is true for the 1883 exposition where our kababayan won a gold medal, the first for a Filipino, but not to be interpreted as "first prize."

Nonetheless, Mariano Madrinan is the first international Filipino sculptor, the first Filipino to win a gold medal in an International Exposition.

In order to dig deeper, I requested official records and information from the NHI. I expect a reply after a week and hope to find "new" information on our famous kababayan.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

paetechie wrote:
mutuk wrote:
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In fact, the coveted "medal of honor," the highest award during that time (not the gold medal), was not awarded in 1884


“Among these sculptors of the late seventies was a modest and pious middle-aged man named Mariano Madriñan. In the year 1882, he received a diploma of award and a medal of honor from King Alfonso XII of Spain for his MATER DOLOROSA, a magnificent work of art which was exhibited at the International Exposition held in Amsterdam, Holland,


Vice, ako uli Razz

there's an error here. the exposition in Amsterdam was in 1883, not 1882.

Madrinan was awarded the gold medal, that is the undeniable truth; but not the medal of honor, it's different and more coveted than the gold medal.


Tito,

Heto pa ang isa kong source.

Mula naman kay Tutubi (Backpacking Philippines and Asia):


"the Mater Dolorosa, the last image of the procession, is actually the exact replica of an image Mariano Madriñan made and received a medal from King Alfonso XII of Spain Medal of Honor when it was exhibited at the Amsterdam International exposition of 1882 ."

here is the link http://www.backpackingphilippi.....paete.html

I am just joking Tito. Laughing

paetechie wrote:

In order to dig deeper, I requested official records and information from the NHI. I expect a reply after a week and hope to find "new" information on our famous kababayan.


Joking aside, Thanks for the initiative Tutubi. Very Happy
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