USAP PAETE

[net_feldmann]

[rey bagalso/guestrider]

I admire and commend you for your effort to lead the Paskuhan 2012 and Flood victims assistance. I just have a couple issue that needs clarification, are you still under the umbrella of PI, because the absence of your support is noted last Balik Paete 2012. It is imperative that we can count on you in the near future.`The second issue is the Ermita church project, there's so many questions left unanswered such as missing materials prepaid by donors, laborer shorchanges etc, etc. I know you meant well to restore the church but some of your constituent may not be cooperating with your ideas. Please help us clear the air, thank you. I'll be glad to give donation to SouthCal chapter.

[net_feldmann]

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nenett- felman bagalso

[Guest-DocTabia Adefuin]

Good job , Francis. I ahve received confirmation of support for the Paskuhan 2012 which will be spearheaded by PI of the Bay Area ( Northern CA) and have forwarded the info to Linda and Jerry Winter. Chicago, Canada Northeast, US Northest, NCA, Canada-Vancouver and SoCAL are all willing to help. Chicago has Remigio Milan and CAnada Northeast (Toronto) has Pam Aseoche as new Presidents.

[PI Chicago]

How did the Paskuhan 2012 go? Any updates? pictures?

Thanks!

[Guest]

wala po bagang kahit konting balita tungkol sa Paskuhan? natuloy po baga o hindi? aba eh, Ka Indo mag report naman kayo ng kahit na ano para naman sa kaalaman ng mga nag donasyon

[Guest]

..baka naman si Dok Tabia..may balita, paki share naman po!

[Guest-DocTabia]

Dear Guest, PI Chicago,
Unfortunately I also have not received any news or pictures about the Paskuhan. I will let you know when I et any news.
Thanks
DocTabia

[Doc Tabia Guest]

I received an email from Jerry that the Paskuhan took place alst November 24. He enclosed some pictures of peolple waiting. He says that he hopes some other people took pictures. Vice Mayor- you are so good at taking pictures,did you take any. We will appreciate any pictures. I sent the email with the credits and debit computation to all Chapter Presidents.
I will be going home to the philippines tomorrow , there will be limited computer access .

[Guest]

Why does it have to be Doc Tabia who should account for the Pakuhan 2012? Why can't Mr. Jerry Winter post a reply to the comments and requests for update regarding the said affair? Since he was the one who solicited the donations for it, shouldn't he take the responsibility to account for the funds entrusted to his care by well-meaning donors for said purpose?

[Guest]

and why is Mr. Winter reporting only to Doc Tabia? He is accountable not only to one person but to all donors and beneficiaries of the event as well...the amount involve might not be significant but nevertheless needs to be fully accounted for up to the last penny or centavo...in other word we need "transparency" here, Mr. Winter.

[Guest]

Whatever happened to this note on his letter of appeal posted above:

"Marina will keep an accurate accounting records of all monetary donations received and it will be published after completion of the two projects (Paskuhan 2012 and Flood Victims)"

[net_feldmann]

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nenett- felman bagalso

[tcacac]

Thank you Nenett for posting the report of the Pakuhan 2012...

Correction po lamang ...yong pong nag donate na under Canada Vancouver ay mali...Canada Chapter po sa East coast/Toronto ang nagpadala ng $500...sorry po...di na po nacorrect bago ko ipinapost kay Nenett...

Ikinalulungkot po naming ipaalam sa mga nagtatanong ng pictures na di dumating ang taga kuha ng pictures ng takdang oras...medyo nagipit po sa panahon ng pag prepare dahil sa napakaigsi po ng time ng pagdating ng mga donation sa aming chapter(Paetenians of Bay Area) bago mag Paskuhan...

"Maraming salamat po sa lahat ng nakiisa sa ating PASKUHAN 2012"
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Tita Cagandahan Acac
http://picasaweb.google.com/tcacac
Husband: Pedro Madrigal Acac
Children: Jonathan, Joseph, John Paul, Marilu - Grandchildren: AJ and Nate

[Guest]

Susmaryosep naman, ano bang klaseng report ito? Paano mo maiintindihan itong pira-pirasong papel na ito? Wala bang accountant o kung sino mang may naiintindihan sa paggawa ng isang detailed balance sheet ang puedeng tumulong para makapag-post ng isang maayos na summary report tungkol sa pondong nalikom, halaga ng nagastos at natitirang pondo pagkatapos ng aktibidad?

[guest din]

Salamat sa. Info Jerry ...thank you very much! God Bless you.+

[tcacac]

To the moderator/s bakit hindi inilay ang message ni Mrs Linda Winter para doon sa mga guest na nagcocoments?...yon pong mga guest na nanggugulo lamang ay nalalagay bakit ang kay Mrs Linda Winter ay wala dito?...

Salamat po...
Tita
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Tita Cagandahan Acac
http://picasaweb.google.com/tcacac
Husband: Pedro Madrigal Acac
Children: Jonathan, Joseph, John Paul, Marilu - Grandchildren: AJ and Nate

[fredmc]

To Guest comments and everybody,

In fairness sa nag post ng Paskuhan 2012 Report, sa aking palagay ay sapat na ang Report na naka-post dito para sa kaalaman ng mga nag-donate, nakatanggap, at mga namahala. Hindi na marahil kailangan ang official Balance Sheet dahil doon sa itaas ay naka detail na ang mga nag donate, at sa ibaba nito ay nandoon na pati ang mga Expenses, at natitirang pundo due to the Paetenians International. Kahit yong mga nakaraang Paskuhan ay halos ganito rin ang Accounting Report na naka post sa Usap Paete.

Yong mga pirarasong papel sa aking palagay ay additional documentation lang pagpapatunay ng mga expenses, pati na ang mga listahan ng mga recipients. Sa katunayan, ang mga detalying ito ay hindi na talaga kailangang ipakita sa lahat, pero marahil minabuti ng mga namahala na ipakita rin para malinaw sa lahat na talagang gayon nga ang mga nagastos, at nang hindi maghinala ang iba na sa ibang bagay nagastos ang mga contributions.

Pagpasinsyahan na natin ang kaunting pagkukulang tulad ng mga litrato ng distribution, at ang pagka-antala ng report. Medyo maaga rin ang Paskuhan distribution ngayon (November) na dati-rati ay around middle of December, kaya medyo gipit sa panahon sa pag solicit at gayon rin ang pag-distribute.

Maraming salamat kay Mr. & Mrs. Jerry Winters at mga Paetenians sa Bay Area sa inyong initiative. Salamat rin kay Doc Tabia na naging tanongan at go-between ika nga sa annual Paskuhan event. Ipagpatuloy natin ang Paskuhan tradition para sa kapakanan ng mga pamilya na dapat tulongan sa pagdiriwang ng KaPaskuhan.

[mutuk]

Kang Tita,

Baka ito yung hinahanap mo. Sensya na at automatic na naririject (wala pong kinalaman ang mga moderators at admin) ang mga post ng mga guests na mayroong contact number at mga links. Di na po ito nag a-appear sa usap at agad naririject ng hindi namin alam. Nanonotify lang po ang mga moderators thru email.

Sa lahat na rin po ng posters na hindi registered ay pakiiwasan na lang po na mag post ng may mga phone number at links para di ma automatic reject.

Maraming salamat po sa pang unawa.



Heto po yung post buti at napansin ko sa email ko:


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User name: linda winter, subject: paskuhan

Dear unidentified guests.

What kind of report are you expecting. We are not accountant but I think the report is very comprehensive and easy to understand.
If we will pay an accountant to do this small report, we will spend more than what we collected. So please stop your nonsense comments. It is too annoying. If you need further clarification and or questions, please call Mr. Winter directly at his number 916-945-7911. For your information, copy of this report has been forwarded to all chapter Presidents and please call them if you cannot understand this report.

To all people who will post on this USAP, please identify yourselves. It is very impolite, rude and disrespectful to hide your identity, so if you people does not have better things to say or do, please stop it.

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[Guest]

Ms Linda Winter, why is it "nonsense comments" to ask for a better accounting report of the funds that were collected by Mr. Winter for the Paskuhan 2012? Is it not the right of those who responded to Mr. Winter's solicitation letter to be provided with a more professional report, instead of bits and pieces of scrap paper? And it is not a valid reason to say this is how it was done before. That's the usual Filipino cop-out. If a job could be done better, then we should always try to do it better, di ba? Maybe you should not ask for any solicitation again if you think it is beneath you to give a proper accounting of the funds that you collected. Take that as an unsolicited advice.

[Guest]

..respect is not a right...you or anyone must earn it!!

[Guest]

Ms Linda Winter, in what capacity are you responding to queries addressed to Mr. Jerry Winter? Are you an authorized officer of the Bay Area Chapter or his official spokesperson? If not, why don't you let him talk?